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Copyright (September 29, 2003, 12:14:05 AM) |
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that you include the copyright info from PB original and from PBMod (I devloped).
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RE: Copyright (September 29, 2003, 12:43:20 AM) |
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It used to be in the earlier versions of PBLang, but since so much has changed and re-written, there isn't really much code left of the original.
See in the docs how many files became obsolete over time.
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RE: Copyright (September 29, 2003, 06:08:33 AM) |
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Besides, there is still a notice about it in the docs. But you have abandoned the project like your predecessor did, almost a year ago. So why do you bother?
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MPHH2
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RE: Copyright (September 29, 2003, 02:30:32 PM) |
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Because I might start the project once more, and it will have a better way of doing Lang support and it won't have as many security bug, the reson I added the Disable Attachements was because you could upload a php script and execute it.
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RE: Copyright (September 29, 2003, 02:42:51 PM) |
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Well, start developing with the team... and we will have an even more powerful forum... 
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MPHH2
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RE: Copyright (September 30, 2003, 12:01:20 AM) |
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Dr.Martinus is a reasonable person. If you have a problem with possible copyright infringements and such, I'm sure that you can work things out with him in private without having to resort to childish and immature measures such as your current personal text ("PBLang is licence Violater").
Dr.Martinus has done a helluva good job with developing PBLang into a great forum software. If you've once again regained interest in the project, why don't you join the developing team to make PBLang even better yet, instead of arguing semantics and minor technicalities? |
look, i quit the project because it had major issues with bugs like the cookie security bug which it looks like it is still in this version...
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RE: Copyright (September 30, 2003, 01:16:14 AM) |
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| look, i quit the project because it had major issues with bugs like the cookie security bug which it looks like it is still in this version... |
Why quit a project with bug? I thought that was the point of developing... finding ways to squash the bugs... improving the code. The PBMod sourgeforge.net page was never utilized so it doesn't look you had much interest in truly developing the code.
Dr. Martinus has taken the code and made many improvements, added many new features and continues to improve and support it. He hasn't abandomed it because of bugs... instead he took the challenge and dove in, determined to make it the best available. I've looked at quite a few flat file forums and PBLang is by far the best available. None have support like PBLang... Dr. Martinus answers questions and solves users problems in this forum every day and makes the appropriate changes to the code, provides work arounds and make suggestions on how to solve a problem. There are several php flat file boards around that have been released with so many bugs that they don't work... the authors freak out and start working on a "new improved" version with more features... more bells & whistles before the bugs are taken care of. That's not the case with PBLang!
The file copyright.txt clearly states "The original source is from powerboards (2000-2002), which was then modified by the MPHH-project (2002)". Where's the problem?
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DrMartinus
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RE: Copyright (September 30, 2003, 06:57:23 AM) |
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I would say no problem at all 
@MPPH:
I would like to know what you mean with the "cookie security bug", I would like to fix it. And maybe you tell me which code is "yours", so I can comment on it.
Remember, I offered to join the team back then, over a year ago, but it never worked out for reasons which I am not sure about. You very slow in responding, and it didn't seem as if you wanted any help. But the version released by you wasn't at all stable, there were issues which needed to be fixed, and I took care of it. A year ago you said yourself in the support forum for your project:
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| I give up on this board, it is to destoryed for it's own good, I now work at http://www.edgeboard.net/ it have more of what I and a lot of other people want. |
This was on the 7th October 2002.
If you want to take your "project" back up again, please do. Call it PBMod or whatever you like, and work on it as you did before, on your own.
If you want to join the PBLang team, you are most welcome. I'll add you to the developers list at sf.net, and as soon as the CVS repository is set up, you can add your modifications etc. Your name will be in the doc as member of the team, besides the notice in the file copyright.txt, where it is already now (well, your alias is there).
If you want to be picky about copyrights, I can be, too, but I don't want to waste my resources on it. PBLang is PBLang, and not PBMod or Powerboards.
BTW, the original author of Powerboards came here once only to express his appreciation. When his support forum was hacked, he referred people to PBLang, because he knew that active development is taking place here.
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RE: Copyright (September 30, 2003, 01:47:14 PM) |
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back then i would have let 4 more people on the team and you could have been one of them the only reson why i was slow with everything back then was because i had a lot of work to do out side of the computer.
Since then i've joined the edgeTeam who makes edgeBoard and we just released a new version.
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RE: Copyright (September 30, 2003, 02:42:05 PM) |
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That was the past... think about the future...
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RE: Copyright (September 30, 2003, 11:02:48 PM) |
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@MPHH:
Don't be silly, I have started to improve the board with you, but it was very hard to keep in contact with you. (Changed your board three times, without any notice).
So be glad that someone else has done the work for you. And in this case it was DrMartinus.
And I say Thank youto him and to what he has done for me and all the users of this board!
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RE: Copyright (October 4, 2003, 01:35:44 PM) |
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I'm not interested in he history of the code I'm just improving on what there is right now.
But the cookie security issue exists in the way that if you don’t check the IP of the user security is non-existent.
A proper method would be to use two cookies for identification.
One with the username and another one with a validation hash.
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DrMartinus
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RE: Copyright (October 4, 2003, 01:50:50 PM) |
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Tell me more about it In which way is one cookie insufficient? And in which way provide two cookies security? Cookies can be manipulated quite easily. The IP check is there by default, but as alternative it would be good to include a second cookie.
I just need some more info for that purpose.
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RE: Copyright (October 16, 2003, 12:20:29 PM) |
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I'll just quote my self:
pblforum.drmartinus.de/post.php?cat=2&fid=2&pid=8&page=1
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Another solution fore this is to set another cookie that cannot be spoofed.
The username is stored in one cookie to identify the user but dos not confirm the cookie by anyway.
So by setting another unique cookie that's md5() encrypted by a hash and users data you make it impossible to pretend to bee someone else.
Usually you would use another constant from the user profile (like the email) and encrypt that with a secret hash. Then by comparing the cookie data with the user you get a secure way of knowing that that's really a valid cookie.
Although with the ip check it not that easy to fake a cookie. But by getting the same ip as the admin had last time he logedin means you can also login as the admin.
But with this method the ip check is no longer needed. |
pblforum.drmartinus.de/post.php?cat=1&fid=2&pid=27&page=1
also presented a demo code of the function:
@ koti.mbnet.fi/2zs/keytest/
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RE: Copyright (October 17, 2003, 05:42:41 AM) |
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Thanks, I've included that in the feature requests list on sf.net, it will become part of version 5
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MPHH2
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RE: Copyright (October 2, 2007, 06:29:17 PM) |
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Heh. Its been so long since I was so young and naive. But Powerboards was badly designed. I haven't looked at how PBLang has evolved since 2003. Though I did notice there was a nice PM in the Inbox.
There are several improvements that still need to be made. PB does leave much to be desired.
I've been considering getting back into message boards as my programming field for some time now. If I was given PBLang I would at least redo the reply template. 
I was quite the ass four years ago wasn't I. Meh.
I go by a different username now-a-days and have amassed a ton more programming knowledge and experience. Powerboards MOD was my first attempt at a PHP-based project back when I was 12. Oh the days of learning, how I miss thee.
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DrMartinus
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RE: Copyright (October 2, 2007, 07:23:41 PM) |
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Hi,
the latest code is on the CVS repository at soruceforge. You can of course download it and work with it. The unstable version has a number of new features, but I didn't find the time to really complete version 5. But PBLang is being used, so it's worth working on it and improving it.
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RE: Copyright (June 21, 2010, 03:58:31 PM) |
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thanks for helping me. good luck to all of you
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